"Politics is the skilled use of blunt objects." - Lester Pearson
First Q about jobs - good jobs - in Ontario. Let's see how everyone does. Hudak to go first.
Hudak answers. Nothing of note. McGunity now answering (it's their head-to-head time) Still nothing of note... Let's see if their back-and-forth is any better
Hudak looks a bit silly IMO rhyming off the list of Universities, but makes a good reference to changebook, telling people to go check it online, easy. Now he's outlining his plan, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. Smiling, selling his ideas pretty well. Now McGunity going on to his 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 list. Although they are raising different points (of course, they have different policies) the "salesmenship" of each is about equal, nobody has a leg up on the other, at least not yet.
Hudak comes out swinging. McGunity's response? Seems alright... now the NDP getting in.
Andrea (easier to type than her last name) is staking out a good "different" position, some of that Liberal-Tory-Same Ole Story stuff, good for the NDP. Andrea is actually doing pretty well here.
McGunity name dropping David Suzuki... weird? He's also hitting hard on his Green Energy plan, is this a winnable strategy? At least McGunity is keeping calm, Hudak is not doing so very easily. Andrea talking again, her strategy seems almost... laytonesque?
Hudak staying "on message" hitting the same points over and over. McGunity, while remaining calm, talks slowly, and, does not let himself be interrupted. While this can be a good thing, it also can make him look arrogant. McGunity's hands thing seems a bit odd, stop talking with your hands.
Question 1 is over. I think Andrea has done well here. McGunity has done well so far, but he needs to change his approach or he will degrade.
Andrea VS Hudak, she is asking for specifics, something Hudak seems a bit iffy on giving.
Andrea is doing pretty well so far. Hudak seems a bit blank on specifics, but is hitting hard on his talking points. Both of them are making little errors in their little one-on-one, but now McGunity comes in. The Moderator is trying to get back on topic.
McGunity actually answering the damn question, but he's still jumping around with ants in his pants and his hands flying about. While this is fine to do for a few minutes, he's still doing it. He's starting to look too "worked up" even though his voice is well toned.
Hudak commits to a smaller cabinet, attacks the large number of government agencies. McGuinty back to waving his hands around.
Andrea and Hudak really going head to head a lot, McGunity is starting to look like he's the "third guy"
Question 2. McGunity lost I think. Now on to Question 3 which is about home cost and specifically pensions
From Twitter @EmmMacfarlane: Dalton McGuinty would totally be winning this debate if he was a mimeOuch. That is bad, bad, for McGunity.
Andrea and Dalton really not being negative against one another, they are both selling their own positive points. Lib-NDP coalition in the works?
McGunity listing all the little programs that he's passed over the years. Andrea good at connecting the points with regular voters. Hudak also has a story to share.
McGuinty going at Hudak hard now. Hudak hitting back, the two talking over one another. Both of them have fire here. This is interesting.
Hudak hitting on trust, which is something McGuinty is weak at.
McGuinty is making a few good points, but now Hudak is attacking him again
McGuinty seems to be getting worked up here. Hands waving again. Hudak smells weakness, and is going in for the attack.
Question 4 now. Wants to know why no new bold ideas
Hudak against McGunity now.
McGuinty's points getting a bit tired.
Hudak is giving McGuinty the death stare
Andrea promises to cover 50% of public transit operating cost. Something that I personally think is required.
Andrea and Hudak are "winning" the debate. McGunity seems silly with his hands, and he seems to consistently be in a bubble of some sort.
McGuinty doing terribly here. Ouch. This has gotta hurt for the polls.
Question 5. About education (post sec)
Hudak VS Andrea to start off. They are offering their own viewpoints on the issue, of course.
30 minutes left. Here's a comment from David Akin on Twitter. "Problem for Horwath and Hudak: Not clear that one or the other is delivering McGuinty knockout, but together they might. Will votes move?"
McGuinty comes in now, let's see how badly he gets hurt in this round.
Andrea and Hudak have very different views here, but that's just politics and priorities.
McGuinty attacking Hudak on "foreign"
Andrea trying a "these guys are getting low" tactic, lets see how it pans out.
LOL OOOO. McGuinty tried to make an attack on the Rae govt, but Andrea adds "isn't that guy your federal leader now?" Ouch!! Damn; and I'm a federal liberal! (card carrying)
Final Question. McGunity needs, NEEDS to hit some kind of homerun, or he's already lost. - This Q is about healthcare privatization.
Andrea has the best anecdotes of the debate, I think.
The last open debate with all three leaders. Hudak gets to talk now. He's talking about his daughter now.
Now McGuinty is hitting his fist into his own palm
McGuinty's whole debating skills seem comical. How the heck did he do so well in previous elections? Maybe he's felling ill. He's done terribly, he's lost, clearly.
I can't figure out who won, Hudak or Andrea, but I'm leaning Andrea. Let's hear the closings.
McGunity's terrible showing will show in the polls.
Hudak is full of $#!& but some people like that.
Andrea has probably won.
And that's it for the Debate.I'd say it's been a painful night for provincial Liberals. McGunity has dropped the ball. What the heck was up with him? Was he ill? Andrea has made a great showing in her first debate. While it's Hudak's first debate too, he, as Leader of the Opposition, was already more well known. I think Hudak did what was expected, while McGuinty came in below expectations. Andrea, however, I think did better than expected, and thus, the way I see it; won the debate.Thanks all for following along! I'll see if I can't do some (smaller versions) of this on election night in the provinces.
The instapolls, that you click on the media websites, show Hudak doing very poorly and McGunity doing far better than I'd have ever expected.