Sunday, July 4, 2010

G20 officer admitted targetting Quebecers - and other sordid tales

McGill law student Jesse Gutman, resident of la belle province, says that an officer who pulled him over acknowledged that the police were "targeting Quebecers" during the G20.

Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair admits that there really was no 5-metre rule, meaning several people arrested or accosted by police were never doing anything illegal.

Reporters claim that they were beaten by police repeatedly, including one from the National Post.

There really is no end to the stories coming out of the G20. Questions of whether the force the police used was justified, and whether an inquiry should be held, are coming out of the woodwork. The blogosphere is abuzz with deep questions about this, coming from Liberals, Dippers, Greenies, and yes, Conservatives (though I can't find them online). Harper, and McGuinty as well, have really stepped in it.

Yet despite all this, recent polling done by Angus Reid* suggests Canadians overwhelmingly approve/support the police actions in Toronto. Not surprising in the least - most people don't, won't or can't tolerate the actions of these so-called "anarchists," who ironically organize themselves into "federations." They are, essentially, thugs. And whether or not the police had agents provacateurs, nothing can excuse the fact that these people went there with a purpose. They deserved, and got, a fairly measured response (though one asks why Saturday was so lax).

That said, if you asked Canadians whether an inquiry is needed to sift through the rubble, I think a good portion would agree. Even if the police have wild support, Canadians want people watching the watchers. I think most would say that if they were in the cop's shoes, they'd act the same way, but that it doesn't excuse any violations or abuses that they commit. An inquiry into the event, as well as into the decisions made by the different levels of government in regards to the powers granted to the police, will help us continue with a democratic, transparent and trustworthy system that we all want. That is the only route we can go if we want to repair any damage done by the event.


  1. Oh, someone says that some police officer said that they were targeting Quebecers. Ya, that's reliable. And because the 5-meter rule didn't exist that means several people were arrested that weren't doing anything illegal. Hello?! One person was arrested under that legislation. One. We need to stop with this radical drivel. All the polls show the overwhelming majority of Canadians and Torontonians support the police actions. IGNATIEFF praised the police. You HAVE to give up some civil liberties in order to combat groups like the Black Bloc. That is the new reality. We should be focusing on the billion dollar boondoggle that Canadians were upset about. Instead we have shifted our attack to the far left taking a position issue that Canadians DO NOT SUPPORT. And by "we" I don't mean the Liberal party, because NO ONE in the party supports this position; I mean many Liberal bloggers. We've given Harper a pass on the one issue Canadians were upset about and shifted to the an issue that Canadians support Harper on. We need to abandon some of this dumb left wing ideals and thank goodness Ignatieff understands that!

  2. Liberal Justice,

    I think I noted that people, including myself, support the police. They did their job and they did it well. But it simply isn't "you either support the cops or you don't" - it's not a black-and-white issue.

    This event has brought forward issues that we need to tackle, including the debate on whether we went too far. Allegations of abuse, questions of legality and justification and whether or not this was even the right idea to have it in downtown Toronto are all things on the table. I don't think my position is "far left" by any account - I simply believe that we need to be transparent and accountable as we can when something like this happens. Otherwise, we will end up going too far, and then where will we be?

  3. The polls show Canadians support the actions of the police for the G20 summit, not just support the police. And so does the Liberal party.

  4. That's an appeal to majority, but OK. Let's go with it.

    What does it matter with anything I've said? I've noted people have said that they support the actions of the police. I've said I support the actions of the police. But that does not stop us from committing to an inquiry into the event itself, just to ensure that everything is truly fine and dandy. And you know what? The Liberals also support that.

    So what argument are you trying to make here, and does it really make sense?